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甲鱼,俗称王八,一种属于伊利诺伊州属保护物种,另外一种大家经常钓到的只能用手搞。 [复制链接]

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龟类区分图,看IL怎么给龟分类的。
http://dnr.state.il.us/education/turtle/other.htm

自己在好好读读IL fishing regulation然后看看是不是人家只让拿common snapping turtle,然后是不是还有个时间段。
下面给大家来点详细的:
http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/fishing/Documents/IllinoisFishingInformation.pdf

2015年IL fishing regulation第5页:
TURTLES (Common Snapping Turtle only) andAMPHIBIANS (Bullfrogs only)Methods of Taking and CaptureCommon snapping turtles (Chelydra serpentina)may be taken only by hand, hook and line, or bowand arrow except in the following Illinois countieswhere bowfishing for common snapping turtles isnot permitted: Randolph, Perry, Franklin, Hamilton,White, gallatin, Saline, Williamson, Jackson,Union, Johnson, Pope, Hardin, Massac, Pulaski,and Alexander.The alligator snapping turtle (Macrochelys temminckii)is protected and may not be taken by anysport fishing method.No person shall take common snapping turtles orany other reptile or amphibian by commercial fishingdevices, including, hoop nets, traps or seines orby the use of firearms, air guns or gas guns.

All other species of unprotected reptiles andamphibians (excluding common snapping turtlesand bullfrogs) may only be taken by hand. Thisshall not restrict the use of legally taken reptiles oramphibians as bait by anglers.Any captured reptiles or amphibians which are notto be retained in the possession of the captor shallbe immediately released at the site of capture,unless taken with a lethal method (such as bowand arrow, gig, spear, pitchfork) which does notpermit “release with no harm”. All such taken commonsnapping turtles and bullfrogs must be keptand counted in the daily catch creel or bag. Noculling of such taken species is permitted.No person shall take or possess any species ofreptile or amphibian listed as endangered or threatenedin Illinois (17 Ill. Adm. Code 1010 except asprovided by 17 Ill. Adm. Code 1070).SeasonCommon snapping turtles may be taken onlybetween June 15 and October 15, both dates inclusive.Common snapping turtles and bullfrogs may notbe taken by bowfishing tournament participants.Daily Catch and Possession Limits (except bowfishingtournaments)The daily catch limit for common snapping turtles is2 with a possession limit of 4. The daily catch limitfor bullfrogs is 8 with a possession limit of 16.For indigenous amphibian and reptile taxa, whichmay only be taken by hand, (excluding commonsnapping turtles and bullfrogs) the possession limitis 8 collectively with no more than 4 per taxa.

注意黑体字部分,人家说的很清楚啦,钓的方式,只可以搞common snapping turtle,还有牛蛙,而且只可以在 June 15 and October 15期间搞,数量限制:The daily catch limit for common snapping turtles is 2 with a possession limit of 4. The daily catch limit for bullfrogs is 8 with a possession limit of 16.

注意第二条黑体字部分,其他的非保护的龟或者蛙,可以用手抓,不可以钓。OK,咱先不说保护不保护的,大家谁能用手抓到王八?有这么牛B的同学吗?这手速得多快啊?还得不怕咬。 王八咬住了可是不松口的哦。大家搞的王八,有谁是手搞的吗?

咱再来分析下保护和非保护:
来看下IL濒危动物名单:
http://www.dnr.illinois.gov/ESPB/Documents/ETChecklist2011.pdf
第三页:
Endangered
TurtlesApalone mutica   Smooth Softshell
仔细研究发现,王八有两种,他只保护了一种,见图:

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还有一种他没有保护,大家也经常钓这种上来:

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综上所述,王八只能搞第二款,而且还不能钓,这还有的搞吗?
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谢谢小鱼 很详细

规矩摆在那里 不过嘛。。。
鱼警来了嘛 问王八哪来的 一定记得回答 手抓的

第一种和国内吃的甲鱼很像诶
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3#

哈哈哈哈哈太特么逗比了。
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回复 1楼littlefish的帖子

spiny soft shell 的背脊很明显是隆起的。
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回复 1楼littlefish的帖子

show off 一下我用手捉住的咚咚吧

青蛙,common turtle, common snapping turtle(!!!这个当时不知道它厉害,现在未必敢了),
还有就是甲鱼了--这个机会合适用手是捉的到的
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这个应该是最新,最全面,理解最正确的,多谢分享,赞研究精神。
摊上endangered麻烦估计比普通罚单更严重,伊州悲催啊,忘了王八吧。
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回复 6楼crazybass的帖子

老美也是的,既然最后一种甲鱼不保护,那就别限制了呗。还用手抓,直接明说不让搞得了呗。

版上好像就一个兄弟能用手抓到甲鱼,我是抓不到,那玩意比乌龟精多了,经常在水里就冒个头,远远的看着你,不像乌龟,到处晒太阳,手快有可能抓到。

剩下的八队长钓上来让别人抓,如果碰到鱼警,肯定两人一起被抓,还不如八队长自己偷偷干。罚款只罚一份。
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